Morning Cup Of Coffee And Weather

Do you guys ever find the 20" wheels causing a stiffer ride even on shorter distances? My old 20" folding bike (non ebike) was really a stiff ride even around the neighborhood and with the lighter weight of a non ebike. It wasn't a lot of fun to ride.

I'd like to replace my current full size ebike just for convenience of travel (and it's a bit on the large size for me although I make it work.) but I'm leery of going down to 20" wheels again. I want a soft ride. I'm getting too old for rattling my teeth when I ride.

Stiffer, I hadn't though about it -- but yah, I think that is a way I'd describe it -- my wheels are alloy, not spokes. That may account for it, may not. I personally find them VERY twitchy. I had it described as a very "technical" ride -- something that I'm not sure I want for long trips. I don't want to work that hard.

I do not like the short wheel base and small tires. Fat tires made a difference in the test ride....if I win the lottery, I can see something more traditional...
 
Stiffer, I hadn't though about it -- but yah, I think that is a way I'd describe it -- my wheels are alloy, not spokes. That may account for it, may not. I personally find them VERY twitchy. I had it described as a very "technical" ride -- something that I'm not sure I want for long trips. I don't want to work that hard.

I do not like the short wheel base and small tires. Fat tires made a difference in the test ride....if I win the lottery, I can see something more traditional...
For sure the shorter wheelbase will make it more twitchy. The stiffness is something I would feel at my wrists and through my upper body as the road vibrations and all the bumps come up through the front wheel and handle bars. And Lord help you if you happened to roll over a small pot hole.
 
For sure the shorter wheelbase will make it more twitchy. The stiffness is something I would feel at my wrists and through my upper body as the road vibrations and all the bumps come up through the front wheel and handle bars. And Lord help you if you happened to roll over a small pot hole.
I just went for a 12.8 mile ride. Half was pavement and half was dirt/gravel. Overall it was comfortable and I only met three cars in the 1 hour. 8 minute ride.
 
For sure the shorter wheelbase will make it more twitchy. The stiffness is something I would feel at my wrists and through my upper body as the road vibrations and all the bumps come up through the front wheel and handle bars. And Lord help you if you happened to roll over a small pot hole.
The fat tires & front shocks on the Lectric bikes really help a lot with smoothing out the bumps coming from terrain the front wheels experience.
 
The fat tires & front shocks on the Lectric bikes really help a lot with smoothing out the bumps coming from terrain the front wheels experience.
No doubt shocks help smooth the ride as well as fatter tires. At the end of the day it kinda comes down to weighing all the trade offs among the brands and models. I just went out today and test rode an Aventon Pace 5 Rec. I'll be trying some others too before making any decisions. No hurry.
 
It’s almost November and the boiler has only come on a few times so far this season. The sun has been out a lot and it keeps the house almost too hot. I took the a/c down or it would be running.
 
My spouse is out of town this weekend so after years of putting it off, I worked up the gumption to start trying to Walbernize the 560.

Years ago, when we had to store our camper in a partially uncovered outdoors area in Missouri, it started to develop some small pitting/spotting. I think it got started when sap/pollen drifted through the storage area in the spring and covered everything. I was mostly hoping that a Walbernize effort would reduce or eliminate those spots. We also have some spotting/pitting on the roof and the galley hatch from our storage site in Alaska for the winter. There, we stored the camper in a shipping container. Condensation inside the container dripped onto the hatch/roof and left some whitish spots over time.

This is a ‘before’ shot of the driver’s/port side of the camper:

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I bought a polisher and put in a quick call to Cary this week to check if the original bottle of Walbernize that came with the camper 7 years ago was still good. He (as always) provided a quick answer and a bevy of other tips and encouragement.

I worked through a few different versions of paper towels / microfiber cloths / wooly pads along the way. In particular, I had a helluva time getting the paper towels to stay put on the orbital polisher. There wasn’t enough friction/texture between the smooth camper, the paper towel, and the slick surface of the polisher. Eventually I was putting on a microfiber pad just to help the polisher grip the paper towel.

On the first small area that I gave it a go on, I made two treatments and was fairly happy with the result.

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The next areas were trickier, working around the door and other edges/boundaries. I also didn’t get quite the same level of polish. I tried a couple shortcuts, like not fully buffing before applying the second layer of treatment, and using the microfiber pad/cloths more when buffing. Mixed results.

After doing most of one entire side over the course of a few hours, I was nearly out of my 16oz of walbernize. I wanted to keep going just to get to the “finished the entire side on Saturday” completion point, but my patience was wearing thin and my back was getting sore from pressing on the polisher. Not sure how much pressure I’m supposed to be putting on there … You can see the lower door and lower forward section that didn’t get treated today. I suppose that means I’m getting results, if you can see where I didn’t do anything.


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I guess I need to buy a big jug of this stuff before I do any more polishing. And I’m not really confident in just how clean I need to get these pads and microfiber cloths before trying any more.

Do people do the roof? My roof looks worse than the rest of the camper … but it’s also the roof.

All in all I’m happy. I’m a little annoyed that the pitting/spotting isn’t coming all the way out. I can tell I have reduced it somewhat, as the texture of the spots are smoother and they do seem to have faced. But they are for sure still there.


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My spouse is out of town this weekend so after years of putting it off, I worked up the gumption to start trying to Walbernize the 560.

Years ago, when we had to store our camper in a partially uncovered outdoors area in Missouri, it started to develop some small pitting/spotting. I think it got started when sap/pollen drifted through the storage area in the spring and covered everything. I was mostly hoping that a Walbernize effort would reduce or eliminate those spots. We also have some spotting/pitting on the roof and the galley hatch from our storage site in Alaska for the winter. There, we stored the camper in a shipping container. Condensation inside the container dripped onto the hatch/roof and left some whitish spots over time.

This is a ‘before’ shot of the driver’s/port side of the camper:

IMG-8721.jpg


I bought a polisher and put in a quick call to Cary this week to check if the original bottle of Walbernize that came with the camper 7 years ago was still good. He (as always) provided a quick answer and a bevy of other tips and encouragement.

I worked through a few different versions of paper towels / microfiber cloths / wooly pads along the way. In particular, I had a helluva time getting the paper towels to stay put on the orbital polisher. There wasn’t enough friction/texture between the smooth camper, the paper towel, and the slick surface of the polisher. Eventually I was putting on a microfiber pad just to help the polisher grip the paper towel.

On the first small area that I gave it a go on, I made two treatments and was fairly happy with the result.

IMG-8719.jpg
IMG-8718.jpg


The next areas were trickier, working around the door and other edges/boundaries. I also didn’t get quite the same level of polish. I tried a couple shortcuts, like not fully buffing before applying the second layer of treatment, and using the microfiber pad/cloths more when buffing. Mixed results.

After doing most of one entire side over the course of a few hours, I was nearly out of my 16oz of walbernize. I wanted to keep going just to get to the “finished the entire side on Saturday” completion point, but my patience was wearing thin and my back was getting sore from pressing on the polisher. Not sure how much pressure I’m supposed to be putting on there … You can see the lower door and lower forward section that didn’t get treated today. I suppose that means I’m getting results, if you can see where I didn’t do anything.


IMG-8724.jpg
IMG-8723.jpg


I guess I need to buy a big jug of this stuff before I do any more polishing. And I’m not really confident in just how clean I need to get these pads and microfiber cloths before trying any more.

Do people do the roof? My roof looks worse than the rest of the camper … but it’s also the roof.

All in all I’m happy. I’m a little annoyed that the pitting/spotting isn’t coming all the way out. I can tell I have reduced it somewhat, as the texture of the spots are smoother and they do seem to have faced. But they are for sure still there.


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Great post!
 
My spouse is out of town this weekend so after years of putting it off, I worked up the gumption to start trying to Walbernize the 560.

Years ago, when we had to store our camper in a partially uncovered outdoors area in Missouri, it started to develop some small pitting/spotting. I think it got started when sap/pollen drifted through the storage area in the spring and covered everything. I was mostly hoping that a Walbernize effort would reduce or eliminate those spots. We also have some spotting/pitting on the roof and the galley hatch from our storage site in Alaska for the winter. There, we stored the camper in a shipping container. Condensation inside the container dripped onto the hatch/roof and left some whitish spots over time.
Unfortunately even the Walbernizing won't restore lost metal, which is what happens with the corrosion that caused the pitting. Preventing it in the first place with a good coat of protective wax, and rinsing off any exposure to road salt or sea salt as soon as possible would have been the best preventive measure. Your efforts sure made it look a lot better however, and following up with a good coat of wax will help keep it that way.
 
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